{"id":49295,"date":"2021-08-26T15:54:26","date_gmt":"2021-08-26T07:54:26","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.imoney.my\/articles\/?p=49295"},"modified":"2024-02-02T13:59:08","modified_gmt":"2024-02-02T05:59:08","slug":"making-living-art-interview","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.imoney.my\/articles\/making-living-art-interview","title":{"rendered":"Interview: Three Malaysians Share How They Make A Living Out Of Art And Illustration"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_49309\" style=\"width: 810px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-49309\" class=\"size-full wp-image-49309\" src=\"https:\/\/static.imoney.my\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/26154219\/Charis-Farid-Syarifah-1.jpg\" alt=\"Charis Loke, Farid Nad and Syarifah Nadhirah\" width=\"800\" height=\"262\" srcset=\"https:\/\/static.imoney.my\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/26154219\/Charis-Farid-Syarifah-1.jpg 800w, https:\/\/static.imoney.my\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/26154219\/Charis-Farid-Syarifah-1-300x98.jpg 300w, https:\/\/static.imoney.my\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/26154219\/Charis-Farid-Syarifah-1-768x252.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-49309\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Charis Loke, Farid Nad and Syarifah Nadhirah<\/p><\/div>\n<p>There\u2019s a myth that you can\u2019t turn creative work into a full-time career. This is especially prevalent in some Asian communities, where, as the joke goes, you can\u2019t pick a profession beyond the parent-approved trifecta of doctor, lawyer or engineer &#8211; lest you want to incur the wrath of your ancestors.<\/p>\n<p>Thankfully, that isn\u2019t true. It\u2019s possible to build a full-time career &#8211; and a thriving one, at that &#8211; out of creative work like visual art. But you don\u2019t have to take our word for it. We asked Charis Loke, Farid Nad and Syarifah Nadhirah to share their experiences on how they\u2019ve made a living out of art and illustration.<\/p>\n<h2><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Charis-Loke\"><\/span>Charis Loke<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p><em>Illustrator and comics editor<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.charisloke.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"dofollow noopener noreferrer\">Charis Loke<\/a> is an illustrator and comics editor based in Penang. She describes her work as being rooted in Southeast Asian cultures and influenced by traditions of speculative fiction.<\/p>\n<p>Before going into illustration full-time, she built up a financial buffer working as a public school teacher and at an arts education nonprofit. During this time, she also worked on freelance jobs while taking online illustration workshops and mentorships to learn about the business side of freelancing. \u201cOnce I was reasonably certain of being able to have a somewhat steady income, I went into freelancing full-time,\u201d she said.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_49300\" style=\"width: 2410px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-49300\" class=\"size-full wp-image-49300\" src=\"https:\/\/static.imoney.my\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/26154053\/CharisLoke_GhostBride_Web_Blue.jpg\" alt=\"Mural illustration for Netflix\u2019s The Ghost Bride\" width=\"2400\" height=\"699\" srcset=\"https:\/\/static.imoney.my\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/26154053\/CharisLoke_GhostBride_Web_Blue.jpg 2400w, https:\/\/static.imoney.my\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/26154053\/CharisLoke_GhostBride_Web_Blue-300x87.jpg 300w, https:\/\/static.imoney.my\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/26154053\/CharisLoke_GhostBride_Web_Blue-768x224.jpg 768w, https:\/\/static.imoney.my\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/26154053\/CharisLoke_GhostBride_Web_Blue-800x233.jpg 800w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2400px) 100vw, 2400px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-49300\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Mural illustration for Netflix\u2019s The Ghost Bride<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Most of Charis\u2019 work is done on a freelance basis for clients, specifically in book and editorial illustration &#8211; this includes magazines and other periodicals. She earns income from the artwork fees and its subsequent licensing (for instance, when maps for a book are reused in other language editions of the book).<\/p>\n<p>Other sources of income include support from subscribers on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/charisloke\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"dofollow noopener noreferrer\">Patreon<\/a>. She also holds a part-time role as a comics and illustrations editor at <a href=\"https:\/\/newnaratif.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"dofollow noopener noreferrer\">New Naratif<\/a>, an online journalism platform that publishes stories on Southeast Asian current affairs and experiences.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_49299\" style=\"width: 1510px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-49299\" class=\"size-full wp-image-49299\" src=\"https:\/\/static.imoney.my\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/26154043\/CharisLoke_BoneShardMap_Web.jpg\" alt=\"The Turning Tides: map for \u2018The Bone Shard Daughter\u2019 by Andrea Stewart; print available\" width=\"1500\" height=\"1142\" srcset=\"https:\/\/static.imoney.my\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/26154043\/CharisLoke_BoneShardMap_Web.jpg 1500w, https:\/\/static.imoney.my\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/26154043\/CharisLoke_BoneShardMap_Web-300x228.jpg 300w, https:\/\/static.imoney.my\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/26154043\/CharisLoke_BoneShardMap_Web-768x585.jpg 768w, https:\/\/static.imoney.my\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/26154043\/CharisLoke_BoneShardMap_Web-800x609.jpg 800w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1500px) 100vw, 1500px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-49299\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Turning Tides: map for \u2018The Bone Shard Daughter\u2019 by Andrea Stewart; <a href=\"https:\/\/tinyurl.com\/boneshardmap\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"dofollow noopener noreferrer\">print available<\/a><\/p><\/div>\n<p>When pricing her work, Charis looks at the context and scope of the work and the market that it is catering to, who the client is, and what usage rights they require. \u201cThe bigger the client, or the more places they would like to use the work in, or the more complex the work is, the higher the fees,\u201d she said. She also looks up online databases like Litebox, which list how much clients have paid for similar jobs. For particularly niche jobs, she consults other artists who may have done such work before.<\/p>\n<p>But she notes that the market for book and editorial illustration is not very developed in Malaysia, and that there\u2019s a lack of understanding of copyright and usage rights.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_49301\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-49301\" class=\"wp-image-49301\" src=\"https:\/\/static.imoney.my\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/26154100\/CharisLoke_Road_Web-300x450.jpg\" alt=\"Illustration for \u2018Road: A Fairytale\u2019 on Strange Horizons; print available\" width=\"300\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https:\/\/static.imoney.my\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/26154100\/CharisLoke_Road_Web-300x450.jpg 300w, https:\/\/static.imoney.my\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/26154100\/CharisLoke_Road_Web.jpg 750w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-49301\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Illustration for \u2018Road: A Fairytale\u2019 on Strange Horizons; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.charisloke.com\/road\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"dofollow noopener noreferrer\">print available<\/a><\/p><\/div>\n<p>\u201cThe rates are far from competitive with those of the US or UK markets,\u201d she said. For example, a book cover for a small to large US publisher could be anywhere from US$1,000 (RM4,200) to US$3,500 (RM14,700). \u201cI\u2019ve never been offered more than RM2,000 for a book cover locally, and I know of Malaysian publishers who offer around the same amount for a fully-illustrated thirty-page picture book.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s unfortunate that Malaysian publishers tend to underprice the work of illustrators &#8211; not least because it\u2019s a highly skilled craft &#8211; but also because producing and practising it can incur a lot of expenses. Charis has compiled a list of her <a href=\"https:\/\/www.charisloke.com\/blog\/2017\/12\/30\/finance-and-illustration\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"dofollow noopener noreferrer\">business income and expenses<\/a> during her first year of freelancing, which notes one-off costs like printers, and recurring costs like web hosting.<\/p>\n<p>The biggest misconception that people have about what she does for a living? That she just draws. \u201cI also spend time keeping up with what other illustrators are doing, what publishers are putting out into the world, researching topics and gathering reference materials for my illustrations, reading widely, learning from what artists and researchers in different fields are doing, handling administrative work like invoices and receipts&#8230;\u201d she said, \u201c&#8230;and living.\u201d<\/p>\n<div class=\"block\"><div><strong>Charis\u2019 tips for pursuing illustration full-time:<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Start budgeting and keeping track of your money if you don\u2019t already do so.<\/li>\n<li>Get over your discomfort with talking about money; be ready to discuss budgets and fees with clients and peers.<\/li>\n<li>Save up a buffer before freelancing full-time as it will give you that extra peace of mind and the ability to turn down exploitative jobs.<\/li>\n<li>Have a realistic assessment of your own work &#8211; what\u2019s good about it, what could be improved, what markets are available for it, who might enjoy it &#8211; and get input from professionals in the field, not just family and friends.<\/li>\n<li>Learn to proactively create opportunities for yourself instead of just waiting for clients to find you.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><\/div><\/div>\n<h2><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Farid-Nad\"><\/span>Farid Nad<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p><em>Freelance illustrator<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/farideacs.xyz\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"dofollow noopener noreferrer\">Farid<\/a> is a full-time freelance illustrator whose work features themes of identity, belonging and hope. He has worked on personal art commissions since he was 12, which he described as a gateway to art as a side income.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI hold a degree in English for Professional Communication, and am a JKM-registered OKU for mental disability, and use a wheelchair or a cane for mobility aid due to my physical disability,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p>This has put him on the short end of discriminatory hiring practices. \u201cMost of the job interviews I attended were before my osteoarthritis diagnosis, so my disabilities were not as visible. When I bring up my disability at the end of the interview, it always turns south and invasive questions are asked, only to not get a return call afterwards,\u201d he said. This prompted him to further explore art as a source of income. \u201cPursuing art as a full-time career was more of necessity than want, but I had been able to make it work.\u201d<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_49302\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-49302\" class=\"wp-image-49302\" src=\"https:\/\/static.imoney.my\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/26154113\/Farid-8676e57c_original.jpg\" alt=\"Farid\u2019s work features themes of identity, belonging and hope\" width=\"300\" height=\"457\" srcset=\"https:\/\/static.imoney.my\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/26154113\/Farid-8676e57c_original.jpg 1032w, https:\/\/static.imoney.my\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/26154113\/Farid-8676e57c_original-300x457.jpg 300w, https:\/\/static.imoney.my\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/26154113\/Farid-8676e57c_original-768x1171.jpg 768w, https:\/\/static.imoney.my\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/26154113\/Farid-8676e57c_original-800x1219.jpg 800w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-49302\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Farid\u2019s work features themes of identity, belonging and hope<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Farid picks up projects by browsing newsletters and job boards. He uses his skills as a certified linguist to pitch ideas and submit them to calls for artists. \u201cThis approach has granted me a notable <a href=\"https:\/\/farideacs.crd.co\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"dofollow noopener noreferrer\">portfolio<\/a> of published work including some in-print,\u201d he said. He was recently published in <a href=\"https:\/\/malaysia.kinokuniya.com\/bw\/9789811451607\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"dofollow noopener noreferrer\"><em>Sound<\/em><\/a>, a comics anthology featuring Southeast Asian writers and illustrators (also co-edited by Charis Loke). Farid also takes personal art commissions and sells web zines on itch.io and Ko-Fi.<\/p>\n<p>When pricing his work, Farid uses a base price list. This takes into account how much time and effort is needed, as well as current exchange rates.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI also take into consideration the demand of my work and my capabilities to reach that demand,\u201d he said. \u201cFor example, I used to price coloured refined sketches from the waist-up at US$35. From analysing the amount of demand I received for it the previous year, I found that I could barely keep up while still struggling to make ends meet. Since then, I\u2019ve increased my prices for it to US$50 which receives less orders now but earns me more a piece. This lets me earn a living without sacrificing my health.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cA lot of it is informed by my socioeconomic position, my own limits as a disabled person, and my client base. I am a B40 who has to account for city living costs but manage to do so because my client base is international and I mainly get paid in US dollars.\u201d<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_49304\" style=\"width: 1930px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-49304\" class=\"size-full wp-image-49304\" src=\"https:\/\/static.imoney.my\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/26154136\/Farid-pick-your-poison.jpg\" alt=\"Farid has hosted an online workshop on how creatives can make a living freelancing\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1080\" srcset=\"https:\/\/static.imoney.my\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/26154136\/Farid-pick-your-poison.jpg 1920w, https:\/\/static.imoney.my\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/26154136\/Farid-pick-your-poison-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/static.imoney.my\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/26154136\/Farid-pick-your-poison-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/static.imoney.my\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/26154136\/Farid-pick-your-poison-800x450.jpg 800w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-49304\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Farid has hosted an online workshop on how creatives can make a living freelancing<\/p><\/div>\n<p>However, he notes that there is a general misunderstanding of art and profitability. \u201cMost people\u2019s ideas of art as a way of living stems from older concepts of art galleries and physical pieces, which isn\u2019t the only method of earning with your artwork anymore,\u201d he said. With digital commerce, earning an income from art doesn\u2019t have to involve the exchange of physical goods at all.<\/p>\n<p>This misconception appears in the local art scene as well. \u201cThe local art community, and to an extent, society as a whole, are still stuck in the mindset and preconceived notions of art from decades ago,\u201d said Farid. \u201cArt isn&#8217;t just about huge canvas paintings of palm trees and metal-work sculptures anymore. While they are beautiful works by themselves, the local scene has to look beyond blueprints from the 50s.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The problem with this mindset, he shared, is that most local art residencies and grants center around final products that align with these concepts of art. \u201cFinancial aid becomes inaccessible, forcing those [who work] with more contemporary art or digital-based mediums to choose between pursuing their passion or putting food on their plates.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Freelancers already have few resources to depend on for financial security. \u201cWhile I am thankful that <a href=\"https:\/\/www.imoney.my\/articles\/socso-perkeso-benefits\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"dofollow noopener noreferrer\">SOCSO<\/a> has programs such as their <em>Skim Keselamatan Sosial Pekerjaan Sendiri<\/em> (SKSPS) specifically for freelancers, multiple other challenges such as the lack of paycheck documents and employer references still plague the trade,\u201d he said. \u201cAs someone who is mentally and physically disabled, these lack of accessibilities double down to our already inaccessible system.\u201d<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_49303\" style=\"width: 1930px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-49303\" class=\"size-full wp-image-49303\" src=\"https:\/\/static.imoney.my\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/26154126\/Farid-a12009eb_original.jpg\" alt=\"Farid\u2019s revenue streams include art commissions\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1920\" srcset=\"https:\/\/static.imoney.my\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/26154126\/Farid-a12009eb_original.jpg 1920w, https:\/\/static.imoney.my\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/26154126\/Farid-a12009eb_original-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/static.imoney.my\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/26154126\/Farid-a12009eb_original-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/static.imoney.my\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/26154126\/Farid-a12009eb_original-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/static.imoney.my\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/26154126\/Farid-a12009eb_original-800x800.jpg 800w, https:\/\/static.imoney.my\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/26154126\/Farid-a12009eb_original-200x200.jpg 200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-49303\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Farid\u2019s revenue streams include art commissions<\/p><\/div>\n<p>To aspiring full-time artists, Farid suggests investing time in learning the basics of professional communication. This includes common courtesy, negotiation and persuasion &#8211; skills that can help with approaching art as a business and with socialising in general.<\/p>\n<p>Additionally, seek out learning resources on art-related skills, as this can be beneficial to the technical aspects of producing your work. He also suggests making use of planners or organisational tools, which would help both your career and general lifestyle.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cFinally, always remember that your fellow artists are not competition to be squashed but rather a community to grow together in,\u201d he said. \u201cThe toxic capitalist idea of individualism and artificial scarcity is what has brought artists and art as a career down as something perceived as unsustainable or even shameful, which is far from the truth. We can grow together and thrive as a loving, helpful and connected coalition of creators by starting from ourselves in making sure nobody gets left behind.\u201d<\/p>\n<h2><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Syarifah-Nadhirah\"><\/span>Syarifah Nadhirah<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n<p><em>Visual artist and author of Recalling Forgotten Tastes<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.syarifahnadhirah.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"dofollow noopener noreferrer\">Syarifah Nadhirah<\/a> is a visual artist who experiments in printmaking, watercolor and digital illustrations.<\/p>\n<p>Although she majored in architecture, she felt adamant on pursuing a different path. While she was still practising in an architectural firm, she took commissions, learned about factory printing and the technicalities of product design. Eventually, Syarifah set up <a href=\"https:\/\/shopee.com.my\/paperweightstudio\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"dofollow noopener noreferrer\">Paperweight Studio<\/a> with her partner, Alani Iman. The studio focuses on illustration, wedding suites and product design projects.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAt the same time, I practised as a visual artist after attending an art residency in Rimbun Dahan, working on research and documentation projects pertaining to the indigenous knowledge of plants,\u201d she said.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_49308\" style=\"width: 510px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-49308\" class=\"wp-image-49308\" src=\"https:\/\/static.imoney.my\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/26154159\/recalling-forgotten-tastes.jpg\" alt=\"Recalling Forgotten Tastes book cover\" width=\"500\" height=\"666\" srcset=\"https:\/\/static.imoney.my\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/26154159\/recalling-forgotten-tastes.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/static.imoney.my\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/26154159\/recalling-forgotten-tastes-300x399.jpg 300w, https:\/\/static.imoney.my\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/26154159\/recalling-forgotten-tastes-768x1022.jpg 768w, https:\/\/static.imoney.my\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/26154159\/recalling-forgotten-tastes-800x1065.jpg 800w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-49308\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Recalling Forgotten Tastes is an illustrated guide to forest edibles<\/p><\/div>\n<p>This research led to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.syarifahnadhirah.com\/order-book\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"dofollow noopener noreferrer\"><em>Recalling Forgotten Tastes<\/em><\/a>, Syarifah\u2019s illustrated guide to edible plants and traditional culinary practices of the Semai and Temuan Orang Asli communities in Selangor and Negeri Sembilan.<\/p>\n<p>So how does a visual artist, author and business owner spend her working hours? \u201cMy working day usually starts with checking and replying to emails, tidying up on finances and managing our online Shopee store. I would start packing orders afterwards and make trips to the post office on certain days of the week,\u201d said Syarifah.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cPre-MCO, I would visit printing factories to check on our ongoing projects, look for the right paper materials, do color proofing and fix any technical issues on site. Some days, I would focus only on design work at home and catch up on deadlines.\u201d<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_49306\" style=\"width: 760px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-49306\" class=\"size-full wp-image-49306\" src=\"https:\/\/static.imoney.my\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/26154143\/recalling-forgotten-tastes-flipthrough.jpg\" alt=\"Recalling Forgotten Tastes features illustrations and conversations with Orang Asli guides\" width=\"750\" height=\"793\" srcset=\"https:\/\/static.imoney.my\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/26154143\/recalling-forgotten-tastes-flipthrough.jpg 750w, https:\/\/static.imoney.my\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/26154143\/recalling-forgotten-tastes-flipthrough-300x317.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 750px) 100vw, 750px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-49306\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Recalling Forgotten Tastes features illustrations and conversations with Orang Asli guides<\/p><\/div>\n<p>On the other hand, other <a href=\"https:\/\/www.syarifahnadhirah.com\/projects\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"dofollow noopener noreferrer\">personal projects<\/a> &#8211; such as the development of <em>Recalling Forgotten Tastes <\/em>&#8211; would take up around 40% of her time, as they include field trips, interviewing people, researching, writing and illustrating.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_49297\" style=\"width: 760px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-49297\" class=\"size-full wp-image-49297\" src=\"https:\/\/static.imoney.my\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/26154022\/Syarifah-nadirah-lino-print.jpg\" alt=\"Daun Malam lino print by Syarifah Nadhirah; available at Hin Store\" width=\"750\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https:\/\/static.imoney.my\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/26154022\/Syarifah-nadirah-lino-print.jpg 750w, https:\/\/static.imoney.my\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/26154022\/Syarifah-nadirah-lino-print-300x240.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 750px) 100vw, 750px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-49297\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Daun Malam lino print by Syarifah Nadhirah; available at <a href=\"https:\/\/hinbusdepot.com\/hin-store.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"dofollow noopener noreferrer\">Hin Store<\/a><\/p><\/div>\n<p>Her current revenue streams include profits generated from Paperweight Studio and sales of her <a href=\"https:\/\/www.syarifahnadhirah.com\/shop\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"dofollow noopener noreferrer\">artwork<\/a>, which include paintings, art prints and books. She also receives visual art grants to run research projects.<\/p>\n<p>When deciding how to price her work, she determines what sets the work apart from others\u2019 and looks at competitors\u2019 prices. She also weighs up other factors like hourly fees, printing cost and materials. The process also involves a lot of advice-seeking from fellow artists.<\/p>\n<p>However, she added that the age-old conflict between artists and clients &#8211; low payment and the concept of valuing one\u2019s work &#8211; is a challenge.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cUnfortunately, this side of the world still regards creative work as low-paying careers,\u201d she said. \u201cWhile running the studio, I always seek advice from fellow peers and try to educate clients on the reasons we should be paid accordingly and on time, of which we struggled with while building the business from the ground up.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>People tend to romanticise the successes that come with starting up small businesses, but not the extreme labour behind it, she shared. Syarifah made sure to have at least six months of savings before starting the studio, and only saw a steady cash flow after two years of ups and downs. \u201cIt is, however, a privilege to be able to leave a stable job and carve my own path,\u201d she said.<\/p>\n<p>For those who are looking to pursue art full-time, Syarifah suggests looking for a sparring partner or a community for support. \u201cIt will greatly help to keep your mental health in check,\u201d she said.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Can you make a living out of creative 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